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Though I use butter as a thickening agent in rather smaller amounts of liquid – be it soup or sauce- I was hesitant when finishing a pot of sauce for roast goose and ended up also adding some starch for thickening. As goose already provides lots of fat this might not be a good example for a butter-finished sauce. But I hope you’ll get the point: Do you use butter as exclusiv thickener in larger quantities of liquid or is it always a combo with other thickeners? What are the limitations of it's use?
Like to hear of your experiences or your rules of thumb.

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I also only use butter with small amounts of sauce-a la minute. It's excellent when it emulsifies with the liquid, but heat and water content of the sauce determine how well and how long the bond will hold. The fat(or butter in this case) must have something to adhere to or you've got an ugly broken sauce.

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When doing larger amounts it helps if you mount the butter by itself first, than add it to the liquid. Butter mounted sauces work best with well reduced liquid.

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i might mount a pan sauce with some butter.

but i dont think my sauces thicken much. they get richer, and have more mouth feel..but not so much thicker by the traditional definition.

i'm no pro cook tho.

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A buerred sauce will be mostly mounted butter, so actually, adding buerre monte to a reduction, such as wine for example, will actually make the reduction the thickness of the mounted butter; hence thickening it, in a sense. Really just changing a liquid or syrup into a rich, velvety texture, as noted.

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this brings to mind a family meal experience where my fellow cooks and i went whole hog on putting butter in everything we made to which my sous chef screamed, "Butter is not the answer!"

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If you're from Wisconsin it is....

That and beer...

Really anything bad for you.

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I'm not familiar with the use of the word, "mount" in this thread. Can someone explain?

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A buerred sauce will be mostly mounted butter,.

Z..i think the sauce NC is talking about..is Buerre monte or something. something french.

i think the monte translated to "mount" in english..and it means to whisk a pat of butter into a sauce.

my friend's mom is a retire pro chef..and she likes to dazzle me with explanations. bums her out her son cant cook, so she talks to me, and teaches me things. i seem to remember her trying to explain it to me..

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my friend's mom is a retire pro chef..and she likes to dazzle me with explanations. bums her out her son cant cook, so she talks to me, and teaches me things. i seem to remember her trying to explain it to me..

An old school chef where they actually knew a lot about everything and before the days of becoming a head chef 3 years after finishing school.. *cough* me *cough*

My first exec chef was like that, a C.I.A trained chef who had at least 30 ring binders of recipes in his office, he said "I can't teach you to be a specialist in anything, but I can teach you a bit about everything" back when I dreamed of being a saucier.. Haha.

Anyway you should pick up a copy of La Rousse Gastronomique, they have all the beurre sauces, I don't cook French anymore, which is pretty much where butter in everything originates from.
As said above ive only used it by itself to finish a sauce last minute and off the heat.
You could try a beurre marnie 1:1 melted butter to flour, you can roll it in cling film in a cylinder it refrigerate it, then cut it into tablespoon discs as needed. This is obviously the predecessor to the roux, just remember its uncooked flour so will need to be added with enough time to be simmered for a bit.

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Thanks for your answers, everyone. Much appreciated.

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I am a beurre manie maniac I live and stand by that

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Beurre Monte is emulsified butter, added to a pan sauce. Classic French Beurre Blanc with white wine reduction or Rouge for red wine reduction. Where the term mounted comes from... at least in the kitchen

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Beurre Monte is emulsified butter, added to a pan sauce. Classic French Beurre Blanc with white wine reduction or Rouge for red wine reduction. Where the term mounted comes from... at least in the kitchen

remember to keep the sauces hot or do them a la minute so they don't break

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I'm not familiar with the use of the word, "mount" in this thread. Can someone explain?

To expand on what was already explained - mounting a sauce is just slowly whisking pats of (cold) butter into a hot liquid, keeping it emulsified and making the sauce richer.

Buerre Monte is one of the most basic examples of this. It's just water + butter emulsified. So you take a pot of water, bring it to a boil, and then reduce your heat and start to whisk in your butter. And because butter is not the most stable binder - the idea is you slowly add in your butter, a few pads at a time, waiting until what you've added is melted before adding more. The ratio of butter:water all depends on what you're trying to achieve. You can use it for whatever but mostly you see it for cooking veg like green beans and asparagus, or shellfish like lobster or crab. Or if you really want to ball out you can rest whatever proteins you're cooking in a pool of it.

But like the OP was talking about, mounting butter into something is usually done at the last minute and for smaller sauces because it has a tendency to break when you apply high heat or re-heat.

If you take gumbo for example, you would never ever thicken your gumbo by adding a huge amount of plain butter. A) it's no cost effective b) it wouldn't taste right, and c) every time you went to re-heat that gumbo, you run the very strong risk of having the soup break on you

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OK, I was familiar with this technique (used it a few times some years ago) but not the terminology. Thanks guys!

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A little of topic here but I worked at a very French Classic place and I literally made about 100 butter sauces a night.

The best technique I've found for both finishing a pan sauce and making a Beurre blanc or flavored butter sauce is to reduce your liquid and add all butter at once. The butter will slowly melt and also allow for liquid to reduce further while emulsifying.

Not only is this faster it comes out thick IMO. If you ever notice your sauce starting to split just add a tad of water, if it split after all butter has been added, add water and then some more butter and it will come back.

As far as a thickener I don't think it's really the right ingredient.

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Butter as thickener? ›

While adding a knob of butter to a sauce won't thicken it dramatically, it can be just the thing to add extra richness and a glossy texture.

Can butter be used as a thickener? ›

The fat keeps the starch granules separate while the starch is cooking. Finally, unlike roux, beurre manie involves combining raw flour with whole butter to form a paste, then gradually stirring bits of this paste into a liquid, usually a soup, to thicken it.

How to turn butter into a thick sauce? ›

As we mentioned, flour and cornstarch are the most popular ingredients used to thicken butter sauce for pasta. After you've heated your butter and water combo in your skillet, turn your heat down so nothing scorches as you work in the dry ingredients. Then slowly whisk in your flour or cornstarch.

Can you use butter to thicken soup? ›

Use a butter and flour paste

You can also use a flour and butter paste called a beurre manié to thicken a soup. Just mix 2 tsp flour with 2 tsp soft butter, and while the soup is simmering, stir the paste into the pan. The butter will help disperse the flour throughout the liquid.

How do you thicken gravy with butter? ›

-Press together equal quantities of butter and flour in a small bowl, using your hands. -Add a little of the beurre manié to the pan and whisk well. -Continue to whisk until the sauce has the desired consistency, adding more beurre manié if necessary.

What is it called when you mix flour and butter? ›

Beurre manié (French "kneaded butter") is a paste, consisting of equal parts by volume of soft butter and flour, used to thicken soups and sauces. By kneading the flour and butter together, the flour particles are coated in butter.

How to thicken with butter and flour? ›

Beurre Manié (French for “kneaded butter”) is made by mixing equals parts of softened butter and flour. This dough or paste is used to thicken sauces, soups and stews. Note that plant-based butter can also be used to make beurre manié—you may just have to use a bit more flour (3:2).

What is the healthiest thickening agent? ›

Easy-to-access alternatives are wheat flour, arrowroot flour, and rice flour. These are good alternatives to cornstarch because they are more nutritious and contain fewer carbohydrates and calories. Xanthan and guar gum are much stronger thickeners than cornstarch, but they can be harder to obtain and use.

Why add butter to sauce? ›

The addition of butter helps to loosen and emulsify the sauce, making it smooth and creamy.

How do you emulsify butter into sauce? ›

How to make an emulsified butter sauce for pasta
  1. You'll have your pasta already cooking as the sauce is so quick. ...
  2. Melt the butter over medium heat and when it starts to sizzle add the pasta water in.
  3. You then need to whisk it quite vigorously while shaking the pan at the same time so the two liquids mix together.
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Can you liquify butter? ›

If your only objective is to simplify melt solid butter to add to baked goods, you can heat a stick of butter that's frozen, cooled, or room temperature over medium heat until it has just liquified.

How to make sauce thicker without cornstarch? ›

Use Flour and Water

Combine 2 tablespoons flour with every 1/4 cup cold water and whisk until smooth. Add the mixture to your sauce over medium heat, and continue to stir and cook until you've reached your desired consistency. Test with a spoon.

Does butter act as a thickener? ›

Butter is an emulsion in itself, swirled into sauces at the end of the cooking process, known as Monter au Beurre. Butter will thicken slightly, but it also adds richness.

Does butter thicken sauce? ›

To be clear, butter won't thicken up sauces quite like cornstarch or something similar would, but it's great for adding extra richness and glossy texture to pasta and pan sauces.

What is the healthiest way to thicken soup? ›

The absolute healthiest way to thicken soup is by using a traditionally made bone broth powder like the one from Bluebird Provisions.
  1. Oat Flour, Quinoa Flour or Chickpea Flour.
  2. Applesauce or Mashed Bananas.
  3. Eggs.

How do chefs thicken gravy? ›

Another way to thicken gravy with flour is by making a roux. A roux is a mixture of fat and flour, and it's an easy way to thicken a sauce. If you make a roux, it should also be added incrementally. A final option is making a beurre manié, which is made by rubbing flour into butter to create a dough or paste.

What if I put too much butter in my gravy? ›

How to Fix Greasy Gravy. If your gravy is greasy, it likely had too much fat and not enough starch. Shannon suggests adding a cornstarch slurry to the gravy to fix it. The excess fat will bind with the cornstarch, reducing the grease factor.

How do you thicken sauce with cold butter? ›

Whisking in pats of cold butter is one of the classic ways to thicken a pan sauce. This method works though emulsifying the liquid with the butter, increasing thickness slightly and adding heft and clinginess so your sauce coats food better.

How do you thicken stew with butter? ›

Simply knead equal parts softened butter and flour together in a bowl with your fingers until well-combined (beurre manié literally means “kneaded butter”) and then roll into small bits. Add the bits gradually to your stew, whisking until it noticeably thickens.

What happens if I add flour to butter? ›

A roux is flour and butter cooked together to create a thick sauce. It is whisked over heat until smooth to your desired darkness. It only takes a few easy steps to reach your optimal stage of roux!

What is a mixture of butter and flour called? ›

A roux (pronounced 'roo') is the name given to the cooked mixture of butter and plain flour that thickens and forms the base of various sauces, particularly the white sauce (béchamel).

How do you thicken gravy with flour and butter? ›

The typical approach for thickening gravy is to make a roux, which is a mixture of equal parts flour and fat, cooked for a minute or two until toasty. One way to make a roux is to leave a few tablespoons of fat (about 1 tablespoon per 2 servings) in the roasting pan and add an equal amount of flour.

What can be used as a liquid thickener? ›

Soup broths and other flavored liquids can be thickened with household ingredients, such as:
  • Baby cereal.
  • Instant potato flakes.
  • Pureed baby food.
  • Blended fruit.
  • Corn flour.
Jan 1, 2018

How to make sauce thicker without flour or cornstarch? ›

6 Ways to Thicken Sauce Without Cornstarch
  1. Reduce the sauce. Simmering your sauce over low heat will cause the water in the sauce to evaporate and the sauce to naturally thicken. ...
  2. Add egg yolks. ...
  3. Prepare a roux. ...
  4. Make a beurre manié. ...
  5. Add pureed vegetables. ...
  6. Use another thickening agent.
Jan 18, 2022

Can you thicken milk with butter? ›

Milk and butter

Combine 1/4 cup (57 grams) of melted butter with 3/4 cup (178 mL) of milk and mix thoroughly to make 1 cup (237 ml) of heavy cream. You can also add a tablespoon (8 grams) of flour to thicken the liquid, especially if you're using low fat milk.

Does butter thicken cream? ›

You can make a cream sauce thicker by reducing it on the stovetop. If reducing the sauce doesn't work, or if you're in a rush, you can use a thickener to bulk up your sauce. Flour, butter, eggs, and cornstarch are simple ingredients that can make your cream sauce thicker.

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